Sept. 22, 2025
I'm Going to Need Some Proof Please...
So I had no idea I would get backlash about saying, "Hey I think Charlie Kirk might be on to something about this we shold all talk to each other.." thing going on. I got TONS of people tell me to dig deeper and I found a black, gay dude standing up for Charlie.
Wait, I thought Charlie was a racist homophobe? Then I was told to quit cherry picking videos. Taylor Swift casting spells? Um, no.
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David Jackson: Not that you're a
liar. Can you give me some some
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links to that
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Unknown: live from the basement.
It's building a better Dave.
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Check us out@betterdave.com
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Email us at dave@betterdave.com
or call in your comments,
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888-563-3228, now here's your
host, Dave Jackson,
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David Jackson: Oh, welcome to
Building a Better Dave. As I
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said in my last episode, I'm
about done with death. Holy cow,
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went to a funeral for my buddy,
and it was open casket. And I
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was like, Oh, are we still doing
that? Oh, go. Well, yep, that's
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Todd. Ah. But here's the thing
that was interesting, is I
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didn't know who Charlie Kirk was
when he was murdered, and so I
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put out a thing on my Facebook
and said, Hey, I didn't know who
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this guy is, but this whole we
should talk to each other. I
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think I'm down with that. And I
swear nobody read it. They just
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saw Charlie Kirk, and it was on
like a Donkey Kong, like all the
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guys eating man, racist, big man
here. And then somebody else and
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it was interesting. So I people
were like, and it was cool,
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because it's friend of mine,
right? People that know me,
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they're like, Hey, Dave. Like,
you know we love you, but like,
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you need to dig a little deeper.
And so it did. And I think
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YouTube thinks I lean a little
right, or maybe a lot right,
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what you do, but I also got some
left leaning tendencies in me,
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just for the record. And so I go
looking, and I found a black gay
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guy who went like, point to
point to point, explaining how
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Charlie had a point. And I was
like, wait a minute, because one
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of the things they say about
Charlie is he's homophobic and
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he was a racist, so we got a
black gay dude saying No,
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Charlie made some good points,
and he said something I haven't
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heard anybody say in a long
time, which was, we didn't agree
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on everything, and that's Okay,
and I think that's the problem.
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But so I think it's inner I
really believe this is truly
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happening, that if I go search
for Charlie Kirk racist, I'm not
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going to get much. But if I was
a blue person, right, if I was a
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Democrat and I Googled on
YouTube, which I realized makes
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no sense. I searched on YouTube
Charlie Kirk races. I'm pretty
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sure I could find stuff. I'm
really starting to believe that
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I need to log out of YouTube and
search as a brand new YouTube
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user. I'm wondering if that is
the case. And the reason I say
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that is because I know I'm like,
hey, this the stuff I'm seeing.
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Like, this guy makes some pretty
good points. And the other side
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of this is like, no, no, Dave.
And again, they're very some of
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them are getting a little less
polite. Some of the people on
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the right getting kind of nasty
calling, name calling. That's
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not cool, but, uh, let's, let's,
let's be civil. But I'm starting
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to think that the reason they're
like, Dave, what's how, like,
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how are you? I'm starting to
wonder if maybe the technology
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is keeping like, hey, this Oh,
you're, you're kind of a red
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person. You're going to see this
result. I just wonder, because
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it's so odd that that people on
both sides are like, no, no no.
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Like, hey, you need to dig a
little deeper. It's there. You
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got to see it. And when I dig a
little deeper, I don't see it.
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And so for my friends on the
left, like, if you're like, No,
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no, Dave, you're you're missing
it. Send me the YouTube video.
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And both my buddy, uh, Daniel, J
Lewis and I are now like, Hey,
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thank you for the comment. Can
you send me a link to the video
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where he said this? Now we're
not saying he didn't say it.
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We're just like, hey, we're in
data collecting mode, and so we
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can make an honest decision
here. And so far, nobody's
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giving me the links. So people
on the left, if you're like, No
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Charlie Kirk was, you know,
we're sorry. He's dead. It's an
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awful tragedy, but here's where
he was a racist, misogynist, and
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all the other is right. Send me
a link now to my friends on the
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right, I was doing a live show,
and somebody I was talking about
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how Taylor Swift is a marketing
genius, and somebody said, I
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don't. Don't lift her up. She's
the devil. She's she's in with
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Satan and blah, blah, blah, bad,
bad, bad. And I'm like, Look,
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I've been around rock and roll
enough to know that, like people
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like, oh, Ted Nugent just a drug
crazed maniac. Ted Nugent
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wouldn't drink caffeine, like he
wouldn't drink coffee. He was so
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anti drug. And I'm like, okay,
easy there, you know, Mildred.
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I'm pretty sure you got that
wrong on TED. So I started, I
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read, well, I listened to a
whole book on Taylor Swift, and
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she's amazing. Like, at 14 years
old, she had a record deal, and
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they just kind of wanted her to
wait to grow up a bit. And she
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said, Well, I'm gonna, I'm gonna
record my own songs. And I'm
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like, no, no. Little Taylor,
like, you don't get it, we're
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gonna wait, and we're gonna
bring in the best songwriters,
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and you're gonna sing those and
you just wait a couple years
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where you're under a development
deal. And she was like, no, no.
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I'm pretty sure young girls will
like my stuff. I want to do it.
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And they were like, and she
said, That's it. I'm out. And
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she reneged on her, her like,
she got out of her, her
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development deal at 14 because
she had a vision. And I was
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like, wow, that takes some
gumption, right there. But I was
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like, Hey, let's go find this
Taylor Swift Satan stuff. So I
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go to YouTube, type it in, and
there was a dude that's like,
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I'm here to tell you she's she's
the devil. And then gave me
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absolutely zero proof. His only
thing that he showed a video
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clip of was at the Super Bowl.
She was sitting next to someone
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who had an upside down cross.
And I was like, okay, all right,
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but sitting next to someone does
not make you a devil worshiper.
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I'm pretty sure the last time I
checked, Jesus sat with tax
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collectors. He sat with
prostitutes, you know, hung out
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with lepers. I'm pretty sure who
you sit next to does not, you
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know, lead you to heaven or
hell. I was like, that's
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granted, you know, you got to be
careful with who you get
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influenced by. But, and there
was one thing where she was on
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some sort of award show, and she
was singing in a white dress,
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she stood behind a bunch of
dancers who then did some sort
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of rip off her clothes, and she
had a black dress on that was
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much higher cut, and a bunch of
flame shot up, and I'm like,
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Yeah, rock and roll, what do you
expect? But again, I don't know.
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I cannot find, like, actual, Oh,
I saw where the again, I did a
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thorough search. I looked at her
lyrics, and one said, karma is
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God. And I was like, okay, so
she's into karma. Well, what is
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karma? Well, karma is, you know,
if you do good deeds, they will
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come back to you. And I was
like, Where have I heard that
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before Do unto others as you
would have them do unto you?
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Huh, okay, and then she's really
into the number 13, yep. Like,
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really into the number 13. Well,
you know, do you have that
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family member that has that
weird hobby, like, for my
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family, they're like, Yeah, I
got this guy that does
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podcasting, but I have a niece
that does a lot of live action
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role playing that I love my
niece. But if you're not into
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live action role playing, much
like if you're not into d and d,
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if you're not into, I don't
know, model trains, if you're
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not into whatever the hobby is,
you're kind of like, okay, you
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be you.
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And so I say to you, person on
the right that thinks Taylor
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Swift is the devil. I'm not
saying you're wrong. I'm just
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saying maybe when I go to search
for Taylor Swift is the devil
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and other types of searches, I
can't find anything. I need some
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proof. So again, I'm in data
collection of this, not saying
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there isn't anything out there,
just saying I haven't found it.
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But I know her, she's very good
at making ear worms that just
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hook into your brain that you
end up humming over and over and
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over. For me, the thing that I
kind of went huh, was I watched
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her tiny concert on YouTube, and
I was like, Okay, I kind of just
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treated her like a pop star, and
her songs were simple, you know,
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she had great hair, but I was
like, I'm not really gay. Admit,
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but she is a person who knows
who her audience is, and gives
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them exactly what they want, and
then goes the extra mile. I
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could do a whole episode on
Taylor Swift and the insane
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thing she does to connect with
her audience. Just none of them
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have, you know, slitting goats
or pentagrams or anything like
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that, not that I've seen at
least so in this kind of world,
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we got to back up our stuff with
some videos or some sort of
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evidence, because the mainstream
media is not trustworthy because
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they're bought and sold by big
pharma and everybody else, and I
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love all my friends on social
media. But if you're only seeing
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the left side, or you're only
seeing the right side, you're
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not getting the whole picture.
And so we're all gonna have to
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go, yeah, not that you're a
liar. Can you give me some some
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links to that? I want to see
that myself and make my own
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decisions, because that's what
the media is supposed to do.
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They're supposed to go, here's
this side, here's this side.
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This is what happened. This
would happen. This is the
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result. And now you get to
decide if that's bad or good.
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But I just, I'm really starting
to think that the algorithms
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might be set up, because I've
read they are. And I'm starting
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to think, yeah, that's true,
where only blue people see blue
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results to keep them very
enshrined in the blue world. And
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so that when somebody says
something from the red thing,
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they're like, How dare you. How
do you even think that that's
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ridiculous, and you keep all the
red people together, and that
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way, when a blue person says
something, they're like, How
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dare you. Good day, sir. Right?
Cuz, how can you even think that
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all I see is red, and I'm really
starting to think that might be
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actually true, until then, hang
in there. It's gonna get better.
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You. You.
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David Jackson: Not that you're a
liar. Can you give me some some
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links to that
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Unknown: live from the basement.
It's building a better Dave.
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Check us out@betterdave.com
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Email us at dave@betterdave.com
or call in your comments,
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888-563-3228, now here's your
host, Dave Jackson,
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David Jackson: Oh, welcome to
Building a Better Dave. As I
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said in my last episode, I'm
about done with death. Holy cow,
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went to a funeral for my buddy,
and it was open casket. And I
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was like, Oh, are we still doing
that? Oh, go. Well, yep, that's
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Todd. Ah. But here's the thing
that was interesting, is I
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didn't know who Charlie Kirk was
when he was murdered, and so I
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put out a thing on my Facebook
and said, Hey, I didn't know who
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this guy is, but this whole we
should talk to each other. I
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think I'm down with that. And I
swear nobody read it. They just
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saw Charlie Kirk, and it was on
like a Donkey Kong, like all the
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guys eating man, racist, big man
here. And then somebody else and
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it was interesting. So I people
were like, and it was cool,
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because it's friend of mine,
right? People that know me,
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they're like, Hey, Dave. Like,
you know we love you, but like,
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you need to dig a little deeper.
And so it did. And I think
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YouTube thinks I lean a little
right, or maybe a lot right,
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what you do, but I also got some
left leaning tendencies in me,
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just for the record. And so I go
looking, and I found a black gay
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guy who went like, point to
point to point, explaining how
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Charlie had a point. And I was
like, wait a minute, because one
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of the things they say about
Charlie is he's homophobic and
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he was a racist, so we got a
black gay dude saying No,
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Charlie made some good points,
and he said something I haven't
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heard anybody say in a long
time, which was, we didn't agree
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on everything, and that's Okay,
and I think that's the problem.
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But so I think it's inner I
really believe this is truly
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happening, that if I go search
for Charlie Kirk racist, I'm not
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going to get much. But if I was
a blue person, right, if I was a
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Democrat and I Googled on
YouTube, which I realized makes
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no sense. I searched on YouTube
Charlie Kirk races. I'm pretty
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sure I could find stuff. I'm
really starting to believe that
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I need to log out of YouTube and
search as a brand new YouTube
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user. I'm wondering if that is
the case. And the reason I say
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that is because I know I'm like,
hey, this the stuff I'm seeing.
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Like, this guy makes some pretty
good points. And the other side
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of this is like, no, no, Dave.
And again, they're very some of
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them are getting a little less
polite. Some of the people on
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the right getting kind of nasty
calling, name calling. That's
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not cool, but, uh, let's, let's,
let's be civil. But I'm starting
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to think that the reason they're
like, Dave, what's how, like,
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how are you? I'm starting to
wonder if maybe the technology
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is keeping like, hey, this Oh,
you're, you're kind of a red
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person. You're going to see this
result. I just wonder, because
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it's so odd that that people on
both sides are like, no, no no.
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Like, hey, you need to dig a
little deeper. It's there. You
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got to see it. And when I dig a
little deeper, I don't see it.
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And so for my friends on the
left, like, if you're like, No,
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no, Dave, you're you're missing
it. Send me the YouTube video.
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And both my buddy, uh, Daniel, J
Lewis and I are now like, Hey,
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thank you for the comment. Can
you send me a link to the video
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where he said this? Now we're
not saying he didn't say it.
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We're just like, hey, we're in
data collecting mode, and so we
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can make an honest decision
here. And so far, nobody's
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giving me the links. So people
on the left, if you're like, No
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Charlie Kirk was, you know,
we're sorry. He's dead. It's an
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awful tragedy, but here's where
he was a racist, misogynist, and
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all the other is right. Send me
a link now to my friends on the
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right, I was doing a live show,
and somebody I was talking about
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how Taylor Swift is a marketing
genius, and somebody said, I
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don't. Don't lift her up. She's
the devil. She's she's in with
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Satan and blah, blah, blah, bad,
bad, bad. And I'm like, Look,
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I've been around rock and roll
enough to know that, like people
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like, oh, Ted Nugent just a drug
crazed maniac. Ted Nugent
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wouldn't drink caffeine, like he
wouldn't drink coffee. He was so
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anti drug. And I'm like, okay,
easy there, you know, Mildred.
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I'm pretty sure you got that
wrong on TED. So I started, I
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read, well, I listened to a
whole book on Taylor Swift, and
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she's amazing. Like, at 14 years
old, she had a record deal, and
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they just kind of wanted her to
wait to grow up a bit. And she
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said, Well, I'm gonna, I'm gonna
record my own songs. And I'm
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like, no, no. Little Taylor,
like, you don't get it, we're
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gonna wait, and we're gonna
bring in the best songwriters,
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and you're gonna sing those and
you just wait a couple years
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where you're under a development
deal. And she was like, no, no.
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I'm pretty sure young girls will
like my stuff. I want to do it.
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And they were like, and she
said, That's it. I'm out. And
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she reneged on her, her like,
she got out of her, her
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development deal at 14 because
she had a vision. And I was
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like, wow, that takes some
gumption, right there. But I was
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like, Hey, let's go find this
Taylor Swift Satan stuff. So I
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go to YouTube, type it in, and
there was a dude that's like,
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I'm here to tell you she's she's
the devil. And then gave me
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absolutely zero proof. His only
thing that he showed a video
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clip of was at the Super Bowl.
She was sitting next to someone
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who had an upside down cross.
And I was like, okay, all right,
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but sitting next to someone does
not make you a devil worshiper.
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I'm pretty sure the last time I
checked, Jesus sat with tax
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collectors. He sat with
prostitutes, you know, hung out
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with lepers. I'm pretty sure who
you sit next to does not, you
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know, lead you to heaven or
hell. I was like, that's
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granted, you know, you got to be
careful with who you get
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influenced by. But, and there
was one thing where she was on
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some sort of award show, and she
was singing in a white dress,
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she stood behind a bunch of
dancers who then did some sort
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of rip off her clothes, and she
had a black dress on that was
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much higher cut, and a bunch of
flame shot up, and I'm like,
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Yeah, rock and roll, what do you
expect? But again, I don't know.
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I cannot find, like, actual, Oh,
I saw where the again, I did a
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thorough search. I looked at her
lyrics, and one said, karma is
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God. And I was like, okay, so
she's into karma. Well, what is
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karma? Well, karma is, you know,
if you do good deeds, they will
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come back to you. And I was
like, Where have I heard that
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before Do unto others as you
would have them do unto you?
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Huh, okay, and then she's really
into the number 13, yep. Like,
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really into the number 13. Well,
you know, do you have that
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family member that has that
weird hobby, like, for my
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family, they're like, Yeah, I
got this guy that does
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podcasting, but I have a niece
that does a lot of live action
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role playing that I love my
niece. But if you're not into
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live action role playing, much
like if you're not into d and d,
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if you're not into, I don't
know, model trains, if you're
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not into whatever the hobby is,
you're kind of like, okay, you
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be you.
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And so I say to you, person on
the right that thinks Taylor
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Swift is the devil. I'm not
saying you're wrong. I'm just
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saying maybe when I go to search
for Taylor Swift is the devil
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and other types of searches, I
can't find anything. I need some
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proof. So again, I'm in data
collection of this, not saying
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there isn't anything out there,
just saying I haven't found it.
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But I know her, she's very good
at making ear worms that just
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hook into your brain that you
end up humming over and over and
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over. For me, the thing that I
kind of went huh, was I watched
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her tiny concert on YouTube, and
I was like, Okay, I kind of just
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treated her like a pop star, and
her songs were simple, you know,
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she had great hair, but I was
like, I'm not really gay. Admit,
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but she is a person who knows
who her audience is, and gives
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them exactly what they want, and
then goes the extra mile. I
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could do a whole episode on
Taylor Swift and the insane
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thing she does to connect with
her audience. Just none of them
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have, you know, slitting goats
or pentagrams or anything like
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that, not that I've seen at
least so in this kind of world,
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we got to back up our stuff with
some videos or some sort of
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evidence, because the mainstream
media is not trustworthy because
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they're bought and sold by big
pharma and everybody else, and I
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love all my friends on social
media. But if you're only seeing
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the left side, or you're only
seeing the right side, you're
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not getting the whole picture.
And so we're all gonna have to
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go, yeah, not that you're a
liar. Can you give me some some
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links to that? I want to see
that myself and make my own
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decisions, because that's what
the media is supposed to do.
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They're supposed to go, here's
this side, here's this side.
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This is what happened. This
would happen. This is the
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result. And now you get to
decide if that's bad or good.
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But I just, I'm really starting
to think that the algorithms
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might be set up, because I've
read they are. And I'm starting
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to think, yeah, that's true,
where only blue people see blue
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results to keep them very
enshrined in the blue world. And
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so that when somebody says
something from the red thing,
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they're like, How dare you. How
do you even think that that's
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ridiculous, and you keep all the
red people together, and that
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way, when a blue person says
something, they're like, How
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dare you. Good day, sir. Right?
Cuz, how can you even think that
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all I see is red, and I'm really
starting to think that might be
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actually true, until then, hang
in there. It's gonna get better.
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You. You.
